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Islamic Duties / Re: women and hajj
« on: January 22, 2014, 01:37:03 AM »
Salaam Alikum Sadar,

His grave is in Medina in Masjid Al-Nabawi. After visiting  they do the peace be upon you and do rakat of prayers. They ask him to be their intercession and ask Allah for Mercy upon their behalf. Then think that doing this, it is as better than a 1000 prayers, and all there sins are wiped out.

I do not know what you believe in or belong to any sect. But this is many Sunni's beliefs. I am only concerned about when I go, InshaAllah I am not forced to do this because I will not. I rather get kicked out than iodize the prophet.

I have many friends and family members who are all in the Sunni beliefs, that did the pilgrimage to Mecca last year and years before, so apparently it is still going on.

Please do not take my comments on this subject or any other posts me hating on different beliefs and sects of other Muslims. I am deeply saddened and disturbed how can anyone believe in anything besides Allah's words as He is even warning about this all over in the Quran.  I mean, they say La Illaha Illah La, wa Muhummed Rasool Allah all around the Kabba??? I would never do that..

Hope this answers your question. I am just concerned if their beliefs are going to be forced on other believers such as the believers of Quran as the only source that we follow.  It really made me think, if that is the case, there is no way I would be able to do my pilgrimage and going against Allah's command and adapting to others beliefs and practices. It is Indeed very sad. But than I am at hope if indeed it is a forced thing, (they have their police EVERYWHERE watching you) there is no way possible they can see who does what when there is millions there. )

Brother Joseph, I believe wrote a writing about his visit to Mecca, covering the whole Haijj subject. Brother Joseph whether you preformed the Haijj or not, maybe you can shine in if they do indeed make this mandatory for the Pilgrimage.

May Allah guide all the Muslims to the Truth and open their hearts to the Truth and understanding of His words that is in a book called the Holy Quran!  :)

Salaam

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Islamic Duties / Woman in Haijj
« on: January 21, 2014, 07:19:24 AM »
They are delusional and evil in the head....

This is what they have among many more rules...."All women are required to travel for Hajj with a Mariam. Proof of kinship must be submitted with the application form. Women over the age of fortifier (45) may travel without a Mariam with an organized group, They must, however submits a no objection letter from her husband, son or brother authorizing her to travel for Hajj with the named group. This letter should be notarized."

This is not about to "curb obscenity" Ismail. It does not surprise me that the women have no rights that Allah gave them. This is NOT about curbing obscenity. This is about the satanic Sharia delusion that it is NOT authorized by Allah. Oppression on women because of their low self esteem, CONTROL and very much being misguided! So is their law on women not allowed to drive in Saudi also to curbing obscenity??  Among many many more. They want to observe Islamic laws, than they better start studding their Qurran and really understand it. Not Hadith or Sunni.

The treatment of women in the Muslim world is part of a dangerous pattern of abuse of power by religious authorities whose interpretation of Islam has been embraced widely, the treatment of women in Saudi Arabia is the WORSE!! This is not just a curious cultural difference that women are enduring; this is an abuse of human rights.  The Human Rights Watch just did an article on the Evil of Saudi Regime. Yet,  they have Paris Hilton store right inside Mecca.


There are ways to get around it thou, the problem will be actually the Haijj itself. Most of it is not in the Quran, so they make up stuff, like praying at graves, devil is there, gotta throw stones on it. I read several articles before about how people that went there, were looking forward to it all their lives and were very disappointed because they just did not feel right about the rituals they were doing and said they want to go back and redo it that they now know what the Quran says.  I do not think they can force you to pray to the dead in the graves, because Shia do not and will not do it for Abu Bukir, I know that is one of them. lol


May Allah give us patience on these dictators and wage his anger on them so people will be allowed to practice their submission to him as he ordered...I wonder if they beat you as been reported by many of you do not go by their rules, Right side everything...ughhh

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lol

 :-X

Nothing will be taken to yoru grave besides your deeds and your belief in the One and ONLY God!

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salam

please can anyone help me take a quran-centric decision regarding spaying/neutering pets? I have a pet cat and my vet is telling me to get her spayed. now, the problem is that I was convinced that spaying her would be the responsible thing to do because of the obvious pet over-population problem and the subsequent euthanization of millions of abandoned cats & dogs.

but the problem began when I started to think about Allah's plan. Now, in nature dogs and cats give birth to several babies at a time but most are hunted or killed. very few and the strongest new pups and kittens survive. but when humans domesticated them the mortality rate of these new- born animals have gone down but people cant really take care of so many of them so they abandon them.  now, if I allow my cat to breed she will give birth to kittens that I won't be able to care for and subsequently they are going to end up dead or abandoned.

but if I decide to spay her, will I not then take away from my cat her God-given right to reproduce? How do we know whether our pets want to have babies or not? isn't this violating our pet's trust? as far as the over-population problem is concerned, aren't we transgressing already when we euthanize innocent animals in millions?  millions of human babies are abandoned but we do not euthanize them, because we think human life is sacred but does Allah make a difference between human and animal life? aren't we not supposed to kill animals without a valid reason? how merciful is euthanisation? as far as millions of puppies and kittens being killed in nature by elders of their species is concerned, isn't it part of the law created for them by Allah? then who are we to judge what is merciful or not? are we claiming to be more merciful than Allah, who has designed it this way? when a male lion takes over a pride, he kills all the cubs that are not his? but, this is nature, who are we to dictate it? all the problems start when humans try to change nature or refuse to accept it. The people who claim that neutering/spaying is the merciful thing to do are the same people who are also euthanising these innocent animals. I don't believe Allah gives us the right to euthanise them. but trying to justify spaying/neutering by mentioning over-population and abandonment as a reason seems very wrong to me.
 

What should I do? Should I spay her? Please help.

Thanks..:)..

Salaam Sister,

Don't do it, if your cat is a wondering cat, tell little kitty you will take her out when she is supervised. If she ends up getting prego, that was the will of Allah BTW, vets are promoting this because they get commission/kickback, everytime they do one,  same with vaccines, and they will scary you with the "C" word, i.e. Cancer. They drill all this information in their heads in vet school. They had a special on vaccines, spayed/neutering and many other vet topics that pet owners should know on 20/20, if you are living in the States. I know this because one of my good friends is a vet surgeon in one of the best animal hospitals in the state where I live, and we talked about what vets wont tell you episode that aired.

They do it for population control, that is the only reason. It is wrong and unnessesary viloation of that animals rights Allah gave them.  Your cat will never be the same, I promise if you do it.

Good Luck sister,

Salaam

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Salaam Ismail,

You should not be telling her that. You know very well THERE IS NO TRUTH for what you are saying! And surat 23 1-11 and everywhere, Allah is not prohibiting us to enjoy and live our lives after we Submit too him and our worship to him. Those verses are clearly reminders to submit to him in prayer on time and always for the prescribed prayers,  no illegal sexual acts, giving charity, i.e, Submission to him in what he already mentions throughout the book. 

This waste of time thing is from the Hadith. Because I know people who actually stop living because they believe this.  It might be good for you tho along with the Internet and start reading the Quran and start reflecting in each word.
You guys should become monks!


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Salaam Khalid,

Have you read most of the Hadith? ....

BUKHARI HADITH:  Volume 1, Book 5, Number 268:
Narrated Qatada:

Anas bin Malik said, "The Prophet used to visit all his wives in a round, during the day and night and they were eleven in number." I asked Anas, "Had the Prophet the strength for it?" Anas replied, "We used to say that the Prophet was given the strength of thirty (men)." And Sa'id said on the authority of Qatada that Anas had told him about nine wives only (not eleven).     [8]

BUKHARI HADITH:  Volume 1, Book 6, Number 299:
Narrated 'Abdur-Rahman bin Al-Aswad:

(on the authority of his father) 'Aisha said: "Whenever Allah's Apostle wanted to fondle anyone of us during her periods (menses), he used to order her to put on an Izar and start fondling her." 'Aisha added, "None of you could control his sexual desires as the Prophet could."     [2]

Volume 4, Book 55, Number 650:

Narrated Salim from his father:

No, By Allah, the Prophet did not tell that Jesus was of red complexion but said, "While I was asleep circumambulating the Ka'ba (in my dream), suddenly I saw a man of brown complexion and lank hair walking between two men, and water was dropping from his head. I asked, 'Who is this?' The people said, 'He is the son of Mary.' Then I looked behind and I saw a red-complexioned, fat, curly-haired man, blind in the right eye which looked like a bulging out grape. I asked, 'Who is this?' They replied, 'He is Ad-Dajjal.' The one who resembled to him among the people, was Ibn Qatar." (Az-Zuhri said, "He (i.e. Ibn Qatan) was a man from the tribe Khuza'a who died in the pre-lslamic period.")    [5]

My favorite is drinking Camel Urine?  :D

Do you see any of this satanic talk or words in the Quran? Most Hadith followers say, well be only believe in some and not the others. ONCE the Author of these sayings are not trust or believed, the creditability is DEAD! No one reads the Quran and wonders if any verses are wrong or not creditable. Besides the point I listed above, it would not matter if each one was creditable. How clear can Allah be saying the Quran only? Trust in Allah???? or a man???? There are no do overs Rasool Muhummed is DEAD, STOP obsessing about him Muslims. If Muslims love him that much to a point he is iodized and thought of even more than Allah, than obey what he preached. Obey Allah and obey his messenger. He is dead so you can only obey him by studying, understanding and holding the Quran that he preached and taught. Leave this overly sexualized perversion, Satanic and vile illness of a book, Redeem your soul by knowing the Quran.
I will make it my life mission to expose the Hadith and Sunna to the world.

In the Name of Allah, Oh Misguided people, please do not associate yourselves with Islam because what you are believing in,  is not Islam, therefore your religion/deen is not ISLAM!

Sounds Harsh, but it is the truth and I stand for the Truth. When my Lord and any of his prophets along with Islam is/are being ridiculed or lied about, I will be extremly blunt about my thoughts. I get many death threats from all around the world already, nothing will stop me from doing my work for Allah and Islam!


Salaam

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General Discussions / Re: qur'an codes, and bible codes?
« on: January 20, 2014, 01:02:00 PM »
Salaam,
This was the exact reason I kept on searching for a different site who went by Quran only and spoke the truth about Islam. Some verses on Dr. Rashids site did not seem to fit with what Allah was saying in certain verses because of my research. But the most that drove me away from that site was when I saw the Two verses being removed and that bothered me a great deal when he gave his explanation.  ???

Because as a believer in Allah and his word in the Quran, that the Quran will be preserved and guarded, I took Allah's word over a man. If the verses in the Quran, and how beautiful Allah's words are is not enough for those who carefully study it, of how well the entire scripture is put together, is not enough than keep on studying and reading until the person sees what many of us sees and Ask Allah to guide you.

I am Thankful to brother Joseph for creating this site, May Allah bless him with entrance in Heaven!

Salaam

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Salaam Sister,

I do not know any verses in the Quran nor searched for them, but there are verses that Allah says that they have communities and how they pray to him.

I see it this way, and this is just me, who are we to decide whether a cat, dog or any animal should not be able to procreate anymore? It is the owners responsibility to keep them separated if the opposite sex of the animal is also in the home, or if your pet roams outside on their own. 

I truly believe deeply it is wrong to do that to an animal as they have the same rights as we do. And since they can not speak and tell you if they want one or not, or feel it is not a right of another creature to make that decision.


 Population is not really an issue nor reason.  Allah gave them the same rights to mate. It is like another of Allah's creation making a decision for humans to get a hysterectomy or  men getting castrated, or when giving babies circumcision. Allah all his creations perfectly.


I feel humans is a population issue in this world, but no one is granted a life be it animal or human without Allah's permission.  Allah is the one who decides if an offspring will be created whether from animal or human. I am an animal lover to the extreme, this is my beliefs. I feel the same about killing animals and eating them, but I also know Allah did not prohibit that, so I do not say do not do that, but I myself refuse to. Of course also, if your pet is at risk health wise, and your doing what is in the best interest of your animal, Allah knows what your motive was.  Again if it is so they do not procreate, you are not the judge of that, Allah is. As there is nothing in the Quran that I have knowledge about, so just my opinions and beliefs.

I was told many times to get my dog neutered or he will get all kind of problems medically. Alhumduillah he has not and going on 13. My two female dogs I got  spayed because vet told me they would die since they got pregnant and were still puppies. I thought I did what was in the best interest of my dogs life. Soon after that they had so many medical issues and complications, passing away earlier that what usually most dogs do.  I regret I did not research it before I believed the vet, I was blind and ignorant and believed.


It is all predictions vets make. Animals life span is shortened and they get complications if they are spayed or neutered from studies that were done.
I truly believe deeply it is wrong... You will start having medical issues with your pet as well and they will not be the same.


Just my opinion and beliefs..

Brother Joseph might have something out of the Quran that is an overall message from Allah that covers this do or don't of this matter or similar.


Salaam

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General Discussions / Re: Israelite Mosque
« on: January 19, 2014, 04:39:08 PM »
Salaam Aliykum, Sardar,

I read a little about them. I do not know what is going on with people anymore... Many are  inventing a new religion almost on a weekly basis.   This group mixes all three together. They follow all scriptures but more focused on Monotheism Trinity,but not as the Christianity as the focal point. They have different interpretations to what some meanings out of the Quran. For instance they call Jesus, the second Adam. From what I have read and heard, they spread words of peace. n

There's beliefs that Satan preformed miracles.

May Allah guide them, as the Quran says the only religion is Islam.. which is the submission to one God with no partners or allies.

I think I am going to send them brother Josephs web link for them to get knowledge about Islam.  ;)

Salaam

http://www.qaraims.com/themonotheistictrinity.htm

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Women / Re: Critique: Marrying 4 wives in Islam
« on: January 19, 2014, 02:59:34 PM »
This is critique of the follow article by Joseph Islam:

Marrying 4 wives in Islam

http://quransmessage.com/articles/four%20wives%20FM3.htm

A general point:

Dearest Mr. Joseph Islam has not liked me questioning his Arabic credentials, but here is the problem:

1. I have read many of his articles and they show a weakness of understanding the Arabic language. Now, there are not major glaring errors, but a shade here and nuance there can make all the difference.

2. When the author differs from an issue from Traditional Islam relating to the Quranic Arabic and the Arabic language in a wider context, then there is a lack of care. For Arabic language and linguistics he is dependent on Traditional Islam - whose scholars have safe-guarded the language and transmitted it to us. And if you are going to differ from countless brilliant scholars and their understanding - then you should have real good reason.



This issue relates to the verse 4:3

وإن خفتم ألا تقسطوا في اليتامى فانكحوا ما طاب لكم من النساء مثنى وثلاث ورباع فإن خفتم ألا تعدلوا فواحدة أو ما ملكت أيمانكم ذلك أدنى ألا تعولوا

And if you fear that you will not deal justly with the orphan girls, then marry those that please you of [other] women, two or three or four. But if you fear that you will not be just, then [marry only] one or those your right hand possesses. That is more suitable that you may not incline [to injustice]. 

Although the verse relates to Orphans - but herein is clear permission to marry up to 4 women.

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The author states:

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It is interesting to note that the verse that is usually read to acknowledge polygny up to a maximum of four wives isn't really sanctioning a number nor is it encouraging multiple marriages. Legitimate enquiries do arise, why 'four', why not 'five' 'six' or 'three'? Why not leave it open to the individual to assess their means and ability to make a decision? Why the use of a seemingly arbitrary number of 4? These are quite pertinent questions.

Simple answer. Quran has restricted it to four.

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It can clearly be read, that the main focus of the verse is to prohibit any form of injustice occurring by compromising the 'orphans'. Verse 4:127 seems to elaborate further by indicating that this was possibly due to men not giving the orphans prescribed portions due to desire of marriage.

The main 'draw' of verse 4:3 is not necessarily to stipulate a number of wives but rather, to keep men away from compromising the orphans.

Yet, the permission of marrying up to four women is general and not restricted.

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We note the Arabic term "mathna wathulatha waruba'a" (Literally: (by/in) twos and threes and fours) which seems to simply denote a multiplicity. The exact same phrase is used in 35.1 when describing the wings of angels and its multiplicity.

The author alleges that there is no upper limit of marriage to 4 women but the indication is of multiplicity and he further cites the verse 35.1.

He further states:

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Therefore, if the phrase "mathna wathulatha waruba'a" ((by/in) twos and threes and fours) is examined with the phrase read in 35.1, one concludes that verse 4:3 is not advancing a 'limiting allowance' to marry up to 4 wives. Rather, its purport seems to be focused in to drawing away from any potential injustice to the orphans by asking the believers to marry other believing women in whatever numbers.

The contention is that Quran has not used normal numbers but another form of word roughly translated as twos, threes and fours. But what does it mean to marry in "twos"? In this form it does not make much sense. And this the author took to mean multiplicity rather than set upper limit.

However this form of number also denote:

"two at a time"

or

"three at a time"

or

"four at a time"

and the limit is four. If the Quran had wished to imply multiplicity then there are words aplenty to choose from and much more clearer.

If one wishes to act upon EXACTLY what the Quran stated then one has to accept the limit Quran set is 4 at a time.

And why use this form of numbers?

This makes clear that one can have up to 4 wives in a single instance. For example:

If someone has four wives and one passes away then he can marry another wife. Although he has had 4 wives but in a single instance he is allowed to marry up to form.

And this, I think, is a better understanding of why the Quran used this form of numbers. However there is room for the interpretation the author has understood, and there is some support for it within Traditional Islam. However, on balance, for the reasons outlined, I do not think it is the best interpretation.




Salaam Aliykum Khalid,


This is somewhat long and I apologize, and I apologize if I am repeating myself, as I am crunched for time. There are topics I bring up. One about Polygamy and  the other I just had to tell you what damage does secondary writings and beliefs do to a Muslim. You have every right to follow and believe what you want. But there are no re-does when ones time is up.

I do not think you have the authority to tell someone they have it wrong and you have it right because scholars said it. It clearly DOES NOT matter if Brother Joseph speaks, writes, reads or understands Arabic  to TRULY understand the Quran and the Meaning of the message! Evidentially he does MashaAllah,  whether he went to study this or not, because scholars who hold themselves knowledgeable of the Quran and its message have lead 90% of the Muslims Astray from what Allah had ordered for us. It is not about reading the Quran or spending years in an Islamic school studying it, It is about him using his Intelligence that Allah granted him on the words of the Holy Quran and understanding it.  If these high end scholars really got any true meaning of the Quran, they would know that the only Revelations for Muslims was the Holy Quran, not manmade written books, i.e. Hadith and Sunna. Most importantly, they would have seen the clear evidence about what Allah says about idolization, which 90% of Muslims do when it comes to Prophet Muhammad. Allah had clearly granted him with no shield on his heart, no covering on his eyes and intelligence. I am born and raised Muslim, I do not even know 5% to what his knowledge is about the Quran MashaAllah!
 I stick to the basics and know what is expected of me. But Brother Joesph has opened my eyes with this website, to how beautiful each word of Allah is, I actually have never been fascinated with the deen nor the Quran. I have seen other web pages that are Quran only, but started to see how things started not to make sense again with what the author was indicating. (Might I add, My dad was EXTREMELY religious, I just refused to accept anything they preached, I rejected Islam being any importance to me besides believing there is a God, and only One God and his name was Allah) When I now here the Quran recite, it is as Allah is directly talking to me.

It is CLEAR evident to ANYONE who reads any of Brother Joseph’s writings; he is Beyond blessed from Allah, MashaAllah, May Allah Protect him and give him wisdom beyond description to keep on teaching and spreading the word of Allah to the human race.
 Things are starting to make sense in the Quran and ISLAM as a whole. I was born and raised in a Sunni family, but I thank Allah I never remembered any Hadith teachings from my parents, but several which I always rejected mainly about dogs and hijab and nothing made sense because while growing up, I viewed God as a monster, AstagfurAllah hu azeem, may Allah forgive me for being ignorant and not have tried to seek the truth earlier.

 I had no religion besides maintaining in the Belief that there is a God and his name was Allah. But it was deeper, I refused to pray, do Ramadan, anything that Allah ordered us to do I did not care. As far as I was concerned, He hated females, men had all the rights, I kept on wondering why He created females if He was so unfair and prescribed injustice towards us, so why did he create me, I kept on wondering? I was the only person in my family who deeply felt like this, everyone else accepted it and never had a problem because it was taught it is from Allah and that is how He commanded it to be. I secretly wished I was born in a Christian family because I viewed them being so fair and equal towards females and males.   Something kept on telling me, research the Quran for myself. Every time I moved away from it, I got pulled closer until I gave in.

What Brother Joseph put about 4:3, is what it is based on what Allah says. It also goes with the entire Qurans message. Allah throughout the Quran tells us how women are equal to men.

In the conditions of Polygamy, it is nowhere in any verse does Allah look into the interest of the man.  It is the case of the mothers of orphaned kids as it all comes down to the orphan when Polygamy is concerned as permission, but it still falls back to the protection and justice for the female which was why he made it clear with conditions.  If Allah has granted polygamy, no orphan will be mentioned anywhere around this subject. 4:3 is COMPLETELY about the Orphan (s) when it comes to the Polygamy matter, as throughout the Quran, Allah has verses that are protecting them and advocating for them. Verse 2:83, 2:177, 2:215, 4:2, 4:6, 4:8, 4:10, 4:36, 4:127, 59:7. Verse 4:3 happens to be in Surat Al-Nisa, which is the second longest verse in the Quran and throughout the Quran, Allah is protecting a woman’s rights, He is not going to start commanding injustice.  Allah Almighty, subhanna ela hu, knows everything in our future before we are even born; He knows what a person would feel like. You do not ponder on him seeing what great injustice this would bring on a marriage if He was freely to allow multiple wives for a man? It all goes down to the Orphan, but still returns protecting the female if she accepts it. It is NOT about what you indicated "it leaves room for the author to and what you explained goes completely against the whole message about injustice and being equal which is preached over and over from Allah in the Quran.
 It is obvious to one who carefully reflects on the verse, sees that the whole “permitting” is for the protection for the orphaned children.  After the orphan in verse 4:4, Allah is watching out for the widowed woman.  Again, this is not about the man. Verse 4:5 and 4:6, Allah is still on the subject of Orphans!! And the Qur'an continues to address the orphans care and protection. Subhanna Allah how kind and beautiful He is on how much He emphasizes on the protection of orphans and woman.  It is also a VERY clear indication that if a man’s current wife is not in acceptance with a man marrying a widow with an orphans, you simply cannot because it leads to injustice for her.    
Now as how Marriage is prescribed by Allah in the Quran besides the whole polygamy thing is in verse 24:32.   One Man one wife constitutes a marriage.
Since traditionalists' motive is to establish that men can marry any women up to four for personal desirable satisfaction, they try to impose a very shallow and biased understanding of what constitutes just and equitable
"And if ye fear that you shall not be able to deal justly with the orphans, (This is clear cut what Allah’s focus is on i.e. orphans) Marry women of your choice, (by/in) twos and threes and fours (Arabic: mathna wathulatha waruba'a) but if you fear that ye shall not be able to deal justly (with them), (this deal justly is about the current wife) then only one, or that your right hands possess, that will be more suitable, to prevent you from doing injustice."

 Many such traditional so-called Muslims “Misguided” have done just that and bought depression upon their first wives, who sadly believes she has to except it because that is what Allah’s says in the Quran.
To impose a very shallow and biased understanding of what constitutes 'fair and equitable' in the verse. they claim that as long as a man can provide food, housing, clothing (i.e. material provisions) to equal amounts to all wives, he is being equitable and just. They say in that case he is meeting the requirement of the verse and can marry more than once up to four. Thus they have passed "fatwas" (verdicts) where they state that "permission" is not necessary from first wife for the husband to marry more wives (to any women). In other words, even against the first wife's happiness, the husband can marry again. Many such traditional so-called Muslims i.e. Misguided, have done just that and bought depression upon their first wives.
This is an understanding lacking wisdom and knowledge. Because to be 'just' and 'equitable' is not only about providing material provision, it is also about being just to someone emotionally. If we take two people and emotionally torture one, then that is unjust - to consider simply providing material provision to equal level to be part of equality is pure ignorance - it is also about what you are doing to someone on the inside. No woman on earth would ever be in agreement to have her husband marry a second, third or fourth wife unless she truly has a doctrine embedded in her head that this is from Allah. I am not talking about anyone from the scriptures because we do not know anything about wives and kids and marriages except what is in the Quran. Secondary sources are fiction.
Thus, if the first wife is against the idea of her husband marrying a second time (even to take care of orphaned children, to a widow), then her wish must be respected to comply with Allahs order.

Supposing the second wife-to-be is happy with the man's second marriage while his existing wife is angry and upset, then this is not being 'just' or 'equitable' between the two since one will be made happy and the other angry and upset.
Such shallow and thoughtless derivation of Quranic verses by these traditionalists portray a worrying element in their own marital relationships - since we see that in their interpretations, consideration of human beings' emotions, the wife's feelings or thoughts are completely overlooked and neglected, and an emotionless interpretation is spread that benefits only themselves. The reasoning for this is as stated, their preconceived motive of justifying marrying more women for personal or sexual gratification. Ideas of women's role as an obedient sexual tool for 'hyper-sexual' men is spread widely through extra-Quranic sources in the name of true religion, and is not based on the Quranic religion
I have refused marriage proposals for the ever from Muslim men, who were born and raised in a Muslim upbringing. Many Muslim girls are marrying Christian men, mainly in the United States and end up being out casted from their families because they have the laws and commands of the Hadith and do not read what the Quran says. I have been on a crusade testifying in courts against having Sharia Law for Muslims in the United States when they lobby the Judicial System to have that as a law for the Muslims.  You would not believe how many RAPE cases I get on my desk from what happens to Muslim females from their husbands, and they have the nerve to stand in court and say it is Sharia Law or it is our rights from God. They go as far as saying it is part of their religion and under the first amendment for being able to practice their religion. It just makes Islam and Muslims stand out for more ridicule. I certainly make sure they are registered as being a sex offender. 

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Most so-called Muslims simply do not look at the Qur'an and just go along with what they hear or read in textbooks about the Qur'an. By studying the actual verses, we have noticed striking points, which have been deliberately hidden away from Muslims by the clergy. Many DECEPTIVE methods are used as I witnessed on many verses in their translated Quran books and Hadith. 
True believing men and women abide fully by the sublime morals of the Qur'an. In cases where the actual Qur'an is followed thoroughly, without deviated teachings that go contrary to Quranic teachings, all believers on this path lead a peaceful and content lives.

This was not meant to come out as a personal attack on anyone, But sometimes Muslims need to hear the damage secondary fiction books do...

May Allah guide you to his light...
Salaam,



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General Discussions / Re: Hello from a Monotheist outside of Islam
« on: January 18, 2014, 04:33:28 PM »
Salaam
It is not my view, It is my friends who is Christian, who told me all about the Gospals and how Paul's writtings were questionable. I am a Palestinian and my whole life was a Muslim. So Did I ever open a Bible and read? No, I had the Qumran. I only knew the basics about what each religion believed.

I just started to hear about Paul from many of my Christian friends. I was curious if everyone who follows the Bible that was non Jewish viewed him the same. I saw you commented about Paul and Infill and wanted to see your view.

I only heard of the blindless and Jesus Killing him (which I can not even comprehend that ever happened based on my beliefs in the Qumran)

My intention was never to mock or speak badly of a man I never knew, I just wanted to hear your view. Sorry if you took it differently.

Salaam

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General Discussions / Re: Angel of Death
« on: January 18, 2014, 02:55:58 PM »
Salaam Alyikum Sister

Verse 6:61 ----Allah has a Decree for all his creatures he creates. He has a set time for our expiration on this earth when our soul will be taken. There is a time and date assigned when He creates us. This time is never delayed. 

(There is a verse in regards to death, 7:34, which is Allah has set a fixed time/term for each nation and when the time has come, one can not delay it or advance it)

16:28- Those whom the angels take them in death while still they are wronging themselves, than they would offer the submission. (This verse describes the people who did not believe and did evil, it is usually described in other verses similar that they get their soul snatched from them harshly. They know that they never submitted and they only realize that when they meet the Angel of death)

39:42 Allah takes the souls at the time of their death, and those that do not die, He takes during their sleep. Then He keeps those for which He has decreed death and releases the others for a specified term. Indeed in that are signs for a people who give thought.

It all comes down to the Decree of Allah when each individuals soul is taken,  it's appointed time Allah has given us. Allah only knows (May Allah forgive me if I misspoke)  if  the person is a submitter or not and it is a matter of letting the Angel of Death know which it is and they know what to do from there.

There are many verses in the Quran that Allah tells us each person has angels that are Guardian over us. I am not sure if those are the Angels who will be ones taking our soul. I really have not looked into  what the Quran says about if it is one Angel that is assigned to putting one to death or many.
 There is another verse I forgot which one about the ones who gets their souls snatches harshly are the ones who do not believe in Allah, have not submitted, setting up idols, and various other things I have seen in the Quran. It indicates they are hit on the face and backs at the time they are being put to death from the Angel. There is another verse about the believer who have nothing to fear as it would be a peaceful experience.
I do remember in the verse the Angel will ask the person

Also Gabriel/Jibreal is never described as an Angel in the Quran. 

http://quransmessage.com/articles/gabriel%20FM3.htm

I hope this explains it.. :)
Salaam,


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Salaam Sister,

From my view, you being a convert it would be the Quran. There is stuff for instance in the Christian Bible that Muslims would not follow. Like eating pork. From what I know it is not prohibited in the NT, but not in the OT. Jewish people do not eat pork, but Christians say it is not forbidden to them, yet they also follow OT.  Same with Alcohol, it is forbidden in the Quran but not in the Bible.
The pilgrimage is another example and praying 5x a day, that part of Islam is the 5 pillars and it is not in the Bible.
My understanding of verse 5:68, it is for those who call themselves Christians follow the Bible, Because Christians main doctrine is the Trinity, although Trinity was never in the NT, that is the whole belief in the NT. The NT views Messiah differently than Muslims do as well.
Also, the scripture for Muslims is the Quran only, as Allah in the Quran commands all Muslims to follow the Quran Alone, this command is found in numerous verses. Example is Muslims believe in One, Unique, and Incomparable God. They believe in the Day of Judgement and individual accountability for actions. Where the Bible has different teachings.

I hope this helps, Brother Joseph is the Wizard on this, maybe he can correct me if I misspoke...  :)

Salaam Sister,



I know that

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General Discussions / Re: Hello from a Monotheist outside of Islam
« on: January 18, 2014, 09:02:08 AM »
Salaam Daniel,

I have a question about what Christians believe about Paul. My friend who is a Christian, said Paul was Jewish and wrote many lies about Jesus, and most of his writings where boasting about himself. She said Paul was the one who planned for Jesus to get killed. (I believe It was God who put him to death and raised him, they just had a body)

she than said Paul became blind some time after Jesus departure, than Jesus appeared before him and killed him.

I am just curious about this Paul.

Salaam

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Prophets and Messengers / Re: The Meaning of Messiah
« on: January 17, 2014, 03:02:08 PM »
Hello Daniel,

Thank you very much for your input as well. Knowledge is power to understanding all faiths.

Salaam  :)

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