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[Sstikstof]

This is an article found in Javed Ahmed Ghamidi site>>> As for theft punishment,

"[As for] the thief, the male and the female, amputate their hands in recompense for what they committed as a deterrent [punishment] from Allah . And Allah is Exalted in Might and Wise. But whoever repents after his wrongdoing and reforms, indeed, Allah will turn to him in forgiveness. Indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful." Quran (5:39-40)

JG's Commentary:
This is merely a punishment in this world. As far as the Hereafter is concerned, a person can only attain salvation if he repents and mends his ways. Repentance and the punishment of this world are not mutually exchangeable. Consequently, this punishment shall be administered even if a person repents and reforms himself, and after receiving this punishment in this world, he shall only be forgiven in the Hereafter if he repents and reforms himself.

What is just happened to Islamic Scholars? Even my little sister could interpret above verse with logical expression. Where is the wisdom of Unambiguous, easy, detailed & Clear Quran? (39:28, 12:1, 44:58 & 6:114)

[Hassan A]

Salaam Sstikstof and all,

Along with brother Joseph Islam's article on this topic, I found the following article which touches this topic and makes the argument that one is not to be punished (i.e his hand cutt-off) if he repents. Some point to note from that article are as follows:

"Severing the hand of the thief constitutes a life-long punishment that cannot be reversed should the offender genuinely wish to repent and reform.
In all the Quran, there are no life-long punishments! Even the punishment of adultery, which is considered one of the greatest sins, is not a life-long punishment.
The reason that there are no life-long punishments in the Quran is simply because God being the Most Merciful accepts the repentance of all who repent sincerely and reform. A life-long punishment would violate the concept of someone being forgiven. A forgiven person has no further punishment, but a man with a severed hand is punished for the rest of his life, even if he repents and reforms!
God gives us in the very next verse (5:39) further conclusive evidence for the correct meaning of the punishment for theft."

[5:39] Then whoever repents after his transgression, and reforms, God redeems him. God is Forgiver, Merciful.


In 5:39 God says that He will ‘yatoob’ (redeem) all those who repent and reform. The verse ends with the words God is Forgiver, Merciful. When God ‘yatoob’ (redeems) any person, forgives him (Forgiver) and grants him His mercy (Merciful), this means that this person is no longer punished. Needless to say, a person with a severed arm will have a life-long punishment that cannot be reversed and thus can never be free of his punishment!


And:

"God, the Most Merciful, does not cause any person to be punished for the sins of another (6:164). Severing the hand of the thief would permanently deprive him of his livelihood and as a result, his family and dependents would experience hardship for no fault of theirs! God’s law is fair and God’s wisdom is unequalled.
Applying the correct punishment for theft would give the offender the opportunity to repent and reform after the full punishment is completed and the victim has been compensated."

Any thoughts?

http://www.quran-islam.org/articles/part_4/punishment_of_theft_(P1465).html

[Sstikstof]

Please be notified that these punishments are advised for last stage of victim, not in normal sense or society norms. Universal punishment is that victim will be punished as society norm with evidence. But who spread corruption in lands and in extreme position of the crimes, don't even know what is called repentance then these punishment is administered.

[Star]

This verse could also possibly mean to "cut off their means for sustenance", to "cut off the means for committing the crime", and a range of other things (misconceptions website ).

I have a question--If a person commits adultery and is found out with 4 witnesses, and then they repent BEFORE the punishment is decided, are they pardoned or do they still undergo the punishment?

Also I found this on the website Hassan linked:

"By virtue of the law set out by God for equivalence in 5:45, a thief who robs another person should be made to compensate the victim by working for him till the victim is fully paid for all damage incurred. Simply going to prison will not compensate the victim in any way!"

I take this to mean that in ordinary cases of crime, the person must work off their penalty. In a crime case where the perpetrator is unrepentant and steals valuable items repeatedly, the actual amputation of the hand might be due.

I'm probably rambling now, but it's interesting to note that today's version of sharia, in which any theft is automatically punished with severing the hand, has failed in every country it's been implemented in. Most Muslim countries are currently backward, dictatorial places with open intolerance and misogyny. However, there was a time when people used their common sense and followed the Quran. In Muslim Spain and the early days of the Islamic Middle East, the residents of those countries were actually very successful. Muslims were at the forefront of science, justice, and innovation. They conquered a lot of territory without forcing their religion on anyone or murdering civilians. It was quite impressive.

And then...stupidity happened. 

Sorry about the long comment

Mia

[Sstikstof]

You will find correct view about the issue over here>> https://books.google.com.bd/books?id=79VoAgAAQBAJ&pg=PA257&lpg=PA257&dq=quran+24:5+repent+sardar&source=bl&ots=-YzgzIfB5W&sig=IgbBGFqCpKPJIgwjRvgdbzKI-hY&hl=en&sa=X&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=quran%2024%3A5%20repent%20sardar&f=false