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General Discussions / Re: How many earths?
« on: September 01, 2015, 10:34:04 AM »
Peace Good Logic,
I think the Daabah cannot be a machine, or computer. It spits whatever is fed into it. It cannot decipher the Revelation.
And I don't think dabbah is angels either---please take a look at 16:49 where the dabbah and the angels are mentioned as separate entities. Also, the definition of the (dabbah) is given in 24:45—it seems to be all about animals - man is included as an example of the “daabah” as per 24:45 – and so are the birds because they are bipedal also (some people may not include birds because they are mentioned separately from the daabbah in the same verse).
Now, a word about the following verse you quoted (27:82):
وَإِذا وَقَعَ القَولُ عَلَيهِم أَخرَجنا لَهُم دابَّةً مِنَ الأَرضِ تُكَلِّمُهُم أَنَّ النّاسَ كانوا بِـٔايٰتِنا لا يوقِنونَ
I must admit that I do not have a clear understanding of this verse despite my best efforts. This seems to be a prediction. If I were a Sunni or a Shi’a, I would say “Ahah, this is precisely about the “Mahdi” who will come at the end of time!!!
Even though I am not sold on the concept of some Mehdi coming to the world to convince the world of the veracity of the Qur’anic signs, I must ask you the question: Why can’t a man (or a group of men) be the "dabbah" referred to in this verse? After all, man was created from the clay, therefore he fits right into the term (min al-ardhi). I believe a knowledgeable man of the 21st century can understand the Qur'an much, much better than the classical “imams”. The ancient imams did not have the tools that we are blessed with today and I am sure the understanding of the Qur’an will get even better as God exposes man to more and more knowledge. Things are shaping up in a way that can potentially convince even the hard-core scientists. I believe we will have a lot more Francis Collins in time. The future will undoubtedly bring more astonishing discoveries about the realities of the Qur’an.
I think the Daabah cannot be a machine, or computer. It spits whatever is fed into it. It cannot decipher the Revelation.
And I don't think dabbah is angels either---please take a look at 16:49 where the dabbah and the angels are mentioned as separate entities. Also, the definition of the (dabbah) is given in 24:45—it seems to be all about animals - man is included as an example of the “daabah” as per 24:45 – and so are the birds because they are bipedal also (some people may not include birds because they are mentioned separately from the daabbah in the same verse).
Now, a word about the following verse you quoted (27:82):
وَإِذا وَقَعَ القَولُ عَلَيهِم أَخرَجنا لَهُم دابَّةً مِنَ الأَرضِ تُكَلِّمُهُم أَنَّ النّاسَ كانوا بِـٔايٰتِنا لا يوقِنونَ
I must admit that I do not have a clear understanding of this verse despite my best efforts. This seems to be a prediction. If I were a Sunni or a Shi’a, I would say “Ahah, this is precisely about the “Mahdi” who will come at the end of time!!!
Even though I am not sold on the concept of some Mehdi coming to the world to convince the world of the veracity of the Qur’anic signs, I must ask you the question: Why can’t a man (or a group of men) be the "dabbah" referred to in this verse? After all, man was created from the clay, therefore he fits right into the term (min al-ardhi). I believe a knowledgeable man of the 21st century can understand the Qur'an much, much better than the classical “imams”. The ancient imams did not have the tools that we are blessed with today and I am sure the understanding of the Qur’an will get even better as God exposes man to more and more knowledge. Things are shaping up in a way that can potentially convince even the hard-core scientists. I believe we will have a lot more Francis Collins in time. The future will undoubtedly bring more astonishing discoveries about the realities of the Qur’an.