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Discussions / Re: Eid Mubarak
« on: June 15, 2018, 10:04:21 AM »
Wa alaikum assalam Yahia,

Eid mubarak to you and everyone on this forum too. May God accept all our fasts, God willing.


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Dear brother Niaz,

As-salamu alaykum

Thank you for a very well written and argued post, the contents of which I fundamentally concur with.

Regards,
Joseph

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Dear brother Mubashir,

As-salamu alaykum

To address the contents of the writer, I have split my response dealing with two main categories:


1. POST QURANIC - Direct instructions given to believers after the Quran was revealed.
2. PRE-QURANIC - Inferences that can be drawn from narratives concerning personalities and incidents prior to the Quran's revelation


Firstly, there is no doubt in my mind that category (1) is of primary importance and should remain the bedrock of any interpretation that may be inferred from category (2). Ultimately, it is the clear instructions from the Quran that are applicable to believers.


1. POST QURANIC - Direct instructions given to believers after the Quran was revealed.

There are numerous verses that make it absolutely clear that fighting is primarily in defence, that believers should incline to peace and in one circumstance of note during the life of the prophet of God, treaty-breakers were provided an ultimatum (9:1). This was because of their wanton transgressions (9:10). The upholding of covenants / treaties was considered so important, that it even took priority over any religious or personal affiliations (8:72)

"Fight in the cause of God those who fight you, but do not transgress limits / begin hostilities; for God loves not transgressors…"  [2:190]

“…But if they cease, God is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful. And fight them on until there is no more tumult or oppression, and there prevail justice and faith in God; but if they cease, let there be no hostility except to those who practise oppression" [2:192-193]

Permission (to fight) is given to those upon whom war is made because they are oppressed, and most surely God is well able to assist them; Those who have been expelled from their homes without a just cause except that they say: Our Lord is God….” [22:39-40]

God does not forbid you respecting those who have not made war against you on account of (your) religion, and have not driven you forth from your homes, that you show them kindness and deal with them justly; surely God loves the doers of justice” [60:8]

"And if they incline to peace, then you also incline to it and trust in God; surely He is the Hearing, the Knowing" [8:61]

In my humble view, there is no 'cherry-picking' when it comes to these verses. The verses are unequivocal in that they part clear instructions to believers post revelation.


2. PRE-QURANIC - Inferences that can be drawn from narratives concerning personalities and incidents prior to the Quran's revelation

God has indeed brought destruction on a people after the errors of their ways have been made manifest to them and they have rejected the truth continuing in their wanton ways of transgression. This has always been His way, His sunnah (Sunnata-llahi) [1]. I have also discussed this further in a dedicated article entitled 'Itmam ul-hujjah'. Please also kindly see [2] below.

However, it is also noteworthy that His way has only included His wrath whence the population also practice inequity and are wrongdoers.

“Nor was thy Lord the one to destroy a population until He had sent to its centre a messenger, rehearsing to them Our Signs; nor are We going to destroy a population except when its members practise iniquity (wrongdoers) [28:59]

There is arguably no supreme human agent of God to manifest this truth than an appointed prophet / messenger of God. Solomon was such a prophet (6:84; 6:89) and he arguably manifested the truth of God in a respectful, noble manner (27:29-30) making the message plain. This included a letter (27:28-31 - where we are not provided the full extent of the arguments or contents), and a physical manifestation of Sheba / Saba's throne (27:41-42). It is not clear what inequities, injustices or transgressions their society were steeped in. However, the report back from the Hoopoe bird does appear to suggest that it was not only a celestial object that had become the focus of their worship, but other deeds were being conducted that were inspired by Satan that kept them transgressing.

'wazayyana lahumu l-shaytanu a'malahum fasaddahum ani l-sabeel' [27:24]
(And Satan has made fair seeming to them their deeds and has averted them from the way)

The writer cites verse 9:12 "and if they (the disbelievers) defame your religion, then fight the leaders of disbelief, for indeed, there are no oaths [sacred] to them; [fight them that] they might cease (Surah 9: 12).". It has already been mentioned that there was an incident in the prophet's life (who have the ability to manifest truth clearly) where treaty breakers wreaked havoc with their transgressions. There is nothing fantastic or peculiar about this or the response meted out.

The writer then cites verse 4:89, but again seemingly fails to note the very next verse (4:90) which provides the context that this does not include those that have not broken any treaty / covenant and do not wish to wage offensive war. It is made clear that here too, the directive is to incline to peace.

The writer then mentions Dhul-Qurnayn. It is not confirmed in the Quran whether he was a Prophet / messenger of God, but he was certainly given authority by God (18:84-86). However here again, the focus was not just correct belief, but also correct conduct which implies curtailing injustice, transgressions or wanton behaviour (18:88).  Dhul-Qurnayn also assisted in defending a folk that were being dealt unjustly by Gog and Magog which underscores the fundamental approach of self-defence with a view to curtail / eliminate aggression.

The writer then cites other verses, which again do not unequivocally support his notion of 'offensive qital'.


In summary therefore:

  • Post Quranic directives for believers state that war is permitted in self-defence, where treaties are broken and transgressed. However, the focus remains to incline to peace.
  • Prophet / messengers have always had the authority to manifest the truth and communities were taken to task when they rejected the message and continued in their transgressions. This has always been the way of God to destroy such wanton nations after the truth was made absolutely clear to them and despite which, they rejected it and continued in their transgressions.
  • Post Quranic revelation, there is no longer any prophet in our midst (nor will be) that can manifest that level of proof and hence, the guidance expressly given to believers will remain of primary importance in how believers conduct themselves.


I hope this helps, God willing
Joseph


REFERENCES:

[1] UNDERSTANDING THE TERM 'SUNNA' FROM A QURAN'S PERSPECTIVE
http://quransmessage.com/articles/understanding%20the%20sunna%20from%20a%20quran's%20perspective%20FM3.htm
[2] ITMAM AL-HUJJAH - COMPLETION OF PROOF
http://quransmessage.com/articles/itmam%20FM3.htm

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Wa alaikum assalam

The instructions of the feeding of two consecutive months or sixty needy ones (58:4) is provided in a certain context (58:2). However the disgusting habit (fahisha) you have mentioned which can be argued as a serious spiritual illness, is no small matter. I have touched upon this in a Facebook post [1] below.

At minimum, you will need to provide a ransom (fidya) [2] and feed the poor / needy person in at least the value of what you eat a day (2:184). This is to ransom the fast that you have missed. However, I would strongly recommend to go beyond this if you can in a charitable nature because of the reason the fast is being broken (sinful act).

These fasts cannot be made up later as this is not a case of illness or travel. [3]

I would also suggest beseeching our Lord day and night, with every prayer for him to rid you of this disgusting habit. It appears that you are trying and may God assist you and others who are in a similar position, God willing.

I hope this helps, God willing.

Regards,
Joseph


REFERENCES:

[1] THE BETRAYING EYES
https://www.facebook.com/joseph.a.islam/posts/413132182157248
[2] MISSING FASTS IN RAMADHAN
http://quransmessage.com/forum/index.php?topic=929.msg6199#msg6199
[3] Ibid.

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Wa alaikum assalam

Please kindly see my responses in black to your questions in brown italics below:


1. Does the meaning of Salaat actually mean what we have been led to believe by previous generations of muslims that have been corrupted by false hadiths? Is there in fact no actual ritualistic Salaat persae?

From a Quranic perspective, I have strongly and prolifically argued that ritual prayer is a fundamental tenet supported by the Scripture. Please see sections on Prayers below

ARTICLES: PRAYER
http://quransmessage.com/articles/prayer%20FM3.htm

Q&As: PRAYER
http://quransmessage.com/articles/q&asprayer%20FM3.htm

2. Question 1 has led me to this scary question and some other findings, namely It seems as if Bhukari was decendant from Zoroastrian pagans and they had their ritualistic prayers which are the same number 5 times a day, with the exact same timings during the course of the day.

After my research I believe that he was part of a plan to dupe the muslims into false pagan worship while they thought they were actually following our prophet and his teachings and the Quran.


This has little to do with the Quranic perspective of prayer which I have already argued exhaustively.

Furthermore, please kindly see an article below which negates the commonly held notion in some Quranist circles that the ritual prayer was invented later.

WAS RITUAL PRAYER A PRACTICE INVENTED LATER?
http://quransmessage.com/articles/invented%20prayer%20FM3.htm

In line with this and the thesis that Petra in Jordon is actually the true Bacca and not Mecca....... this also leads to the biggest and hardest thing to possibly consider.

"Is the Kaaba actually an Idol that we have been fooled into worshipping for the last 1000+ years?


From a Quranic perspective, there is no support for this view. Please see articles below including the ‘Related articles’ cited at the bottom of the article:

PROPHET ABRAHAM'S (pbuh) ORIGINAL SANCTUARY - AT MAKKAH (MECCA) OR BAKKAH (BACA)?
http://quransmessage.com/articles/makkah%20bakkah%20FM3.htm

I have been looking for any information that corroborates the above, which I believe to be the truth after days of perpetual researching.

There are those that have spent lifetimes researching this. I would humbly share that intellectual endeavour is an ongoing pursuit, one which is not necessarily restricted to a few days of continuous research.

I hope you can help me with any information you may have to assist me in answering these questions.

Salaamun Alaikum brother and may God always bless you and your family and may we all meet in Jannah one day.


Insha'Allah


I hope this helps, God willing
Joseph


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Wa alaikum assalam

For those not conversant with Arabic, I would strongly advise reading multiple translations side by side along with word-word translations.

I have provided some useful links in the 'Useful Resource Sites' section of this website where you may find resources to assist. Please kindly see [1] below.

Furthermore, please note further links in [2] below where I have discussed similar queries relating to Quranic translations in more detail, particularly the links under the 'FORUM THREADS' section.

I hope this helps, God willing
Joseph


REFERENCES:

[1] USERFUL RESOURCE SITES
http://quransmessage.com/articles/useful%20resource%20sites%20FM2.htm
[2] QURAN TRANSLATIONS
http://quransmessage.com/forum/index.php?topic=1269.0

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General Discussions / Re: Miqat in 7:142
« on: May 31, 2018, 07:37:13 PM »
Dear Student,

Wa alaikum assalam

One last question on this event, I'm assuming all this happened after the drowning of Fir'oun and his armies.

Yes, that is my understanding.

Also, contrary to Biblical and Muslim popular thought of this Miqat as Mountain Tur/Sina, the verse 7:143 seems to be a place from where Musa AS can see the distant mountain pointed out by God.

Please correct me if I'm wrong on above two assumptions.

Yes, it seems to be a place from where Prophet Moses can see a particular distant mountain as pointed out by God.

Regards,
Joseph

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General Discussions / Re: Miqat in 7:142
« on: May 31, 2018, 04:24:27 PM »
Dear Ilker,

Wa alaikum assalam

Please kindly see the sequence of events (as highlighted in bold red italics in the translation offered below):


  • Prophet Moses was appointed 40 nights (7:142)
  • Prophet Moses then spoke with his brother and commandeered him to take his place amongst the people
  • Prophet Moses then proceeded to another appointed location (miqat) where God spoke to him (7:143)
  • Prophet Moses then received God's messages (7:144)
  • God then wrote / prescribed the tablets for Prophet Moses (7:145)
  • Prophet Moses then took the tablets back to his people (7:145)


007:142
"And We appointed for Moses thirty nights and completed them with ten, so the set term of forty nights [1] were completed, and Moses said to his brother Harun: "Take my place among my people [2] , and do right and do not follow the way of the corruptors"."

007:143
"And when Moses came at Our appointed place (miqat) and his Lord spoke to him [3] , he said: "My Lord! show me (Thyself), so that I may look upon You" He said: "Never can you see Me but look at the mountain, then if it remains in its place, then will you see Me" But when his Lord manifested / revealed His glory to the mountain, He made it crumble to dust and Moses fell down in a swoon / unconscious. And when he recovered, he said: Glory be to You, I turn to You (in repentance), and I am the first of the believers."

007:144
"He said: O Moses! Indeed, I have chosen you above the people with My messages and with My words, So take what I have given you and be of the grateful ones.[4]"

007:145
"And We wrote / prescribed (kataba) for him [5] in the tablets instructions of every kind and clear explanation of all things "so take them with firmness and enjoin / order your people [6] to take hold of what is the best of it. I will show you the abode of the transgressors."


I trust this clarifies from my humble perspective,

Kind regards,
Joseph

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Dear Brother Joseph Islam,
As-Salamualikum ,

Hope you are in peach and happiness by the grace of the God.
I am in big problem . I can not take decision if I should have my wife to restrict permanently for birth a child .
She already gave birth 3 child within 12 years our marital life . All the time she had to take surgery at the time of delivery .
Her health will never allow for conceiving intentionally or unintentionally in the future . She has high pressure and physically not remain good all the time . Though we were practicing temporary birth control method but it may cause for incident again . When situation like this
should I have my wife to take permanent protection of not conceiving any more . Pls give me your humble thought in this matter in Quran's perspective.


B/Rgds
Beyond Tradition.   


Wa alaikum assalam

In my humble view, if it can be determined by specialist / expert medical practitioners in that branch of medicine that a woman is at serious risk of illness (beyond doubt) or even death post another pregnancy, then in those specific circumstances, there is an argument that a permanent procedure could be possible. This is as long as the woman provides her consent (without any coercion whatsoever) to have that permanent / irreversible procedure in the first place and there is a serious medical risk to her health.

Opinions of general practitioners or self-assessments of health looking at superficial markers in my humble opinion, do not qualify as expert medical input.

Regards,
Joseph

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General Discussions / Re: Miqat in 7:142
« on: May 31, 2018, 02:37:31 PM »
Dear Student,

Wa alaikum assalam

I find it very heart-warming when brothers and sisters on this forum assist each other to provide their perspectives on questions and I would always want to encourage this. Therefore, my sincere gratitude to those kind souls (you all know who you are) that make that effort. May God bless you all.


With regards the question(s) you have posed, I am respectfully inclined to deduce the following summary of events:

1. Prophet Moses was appointed a total of 40 nights (layl) (2:51; 7:142). This was a covenant, a promise made (wa'ada) [2:51; 7:142].

2. The Quran splits the 40 nights into 2 parts of 30+10 (7:142). However, the significance of this is neither advanced nor clarified by the Quran and I humbly feel that it is important to take cue from verse 18:22 which provides wisdom to rely on matters which are clear (Illa miraan zahiran). However, I have mentioned the oath of the 10 nights taken separately in the Quran which popular thinking has linked to the month of Ramadan. To note, this is a thought which I do not necessarily subscribe to. Please kindly see link [1] below, where I have offered the possibility that the oath of these ten nights (89:2) could even be linked to the 10 nights of Prophet Moses in verse 7:142. Only God knows best.

3. The first appointed location may have been at a place quite close to Prophet Moses's community. There is no evidence from the Quran that this 'miqat' was at a place called 'Tur' [2] or at a distance. However, there is an inference from verse 7:143 that Prophet Moses was able to complete his appointed term and then converse with his brother Aaron soon after, which indicates proximity.

4. It is unclear how the 'days' were occupied as the Quran only refers to the appointment of 'nights' (laylatan). To insinuate / assert that the nights included the days would be an unwarranted assertion in my humble view. The Quran is familiar with narrative(s) which include both days and nights (69:7) and where general worship is to continue both in the night and daytime by using the general term 'ayyam' (days). “And remember God during certain number of days" [2:203]. Please also kindly see verses 22:8; 2:80 which appear to corroborate this. Therefore, were the days spent amongst his people, further in solitude or whether his close confidantes / family including his brother Aaron were able to visit him (e.g. to provide sustenance)? However to note, this view of provision would be against the Biblical perspective, which claims 40 nights and days were spent without access to food and water (Exodus 34:28). Only God knows best.

5. It is unclear what the nights (laylatan) consisted of precisely. However there is an indication in verses 7:142-145 that Prophet Moses may not have been given the tablets and the lessons drawn from them during these nights. This seems to have occurred at a second location that Prophet Moses proceeded to, after the forty nights were completed (7:145)

6. Prophet Moses appears to have left his people soon after the appointed nights were completed. This is indicated in verse 20:83 by the mention of 'haste' (ajala).

7. In his absence soon after leaving his people, Prophet Moses’s people were tried and transgressed with the golden calf (20:85; 20:88; 7:148).

8. Prophet Moses was informed of the transgression of his people once he had completed his 40 nights sojourn and after having left his people in haste. However, it is unclear how long he further stayed away from his people but he would have arguably stayed long enough for the tablets to have been revealed / given / granted (7:145) and the incident of the mountain crash to have occurred (7:143). It is quite possible that the distance from the community's location to the second meeting place with God took some time for Prophet Moses to travel, as the duration would have had to be long enough for his people to have transgressed and by building a calf for worship.

9. Nevertheless, Prophet Moses returned back to his people angry (ghadban) and grieved (asif) [7:150; 20:86] having been informed and on account of their transgressions during his absence.

I hope this helps, God willing
Joseph



REFERENCES:

[1] Al-Fajr explained by Parwez - A poetic license ??
http://quransmessage.com/forum/index.php?topic=62.msg164#msg164
[2] MOUNT SINAI - BEHIND THE TRANSLATIONS
http://quransmessage.com/articles/tur%20FM3.htm



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Dear All,

As-salamu alaykum

Please kindly note that the above information has been included in an article which was published to the site a few days ago.

You can access this from the following link, God willing.

WHEN DOES THE NEW DAY BEGIN FROM A QURAN'S PERSPECTIVE?
http://quransmessage.com/articles/new%20day%20FM3.htm

025:047
"And He is the One who made for you the night (Arabic: layl) a covering and the sleep a rest and made the day (Arabic: nahar) a resurrection (Arabic: nushur)"

Regards,
Joseph

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General Discussions / Re: Is marriage enjoined on adult believers?
« on: May 22, 2018, 02:34:50 AM »
Dear Student,

Wa alaikum assalam and Ramadan Mubarak to you too.

Particularly with regards the first thread you share, I haven't felt the need to respond as other members of this forum have in my humble opinion, satisfactory addressed the query.

Similarly, please also kindly take note that there are often many such threads where I see no value to comment as I feel the discussions have adequately addressed the question(s) raised.

Regards,
Joseph

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As-salamu alaykum

Ramadan Mubarak to you and your family too.  :)

Albeit I have argued in the following article [1] that God's appointed emissaries did not ask for a reward as it was their God appointed duty to spread the message, I do appreciate that there are those that dedicate their lives to learning, gaining deeper insights into God's words and to teaching it. This was also the case during the time of the prophet and the Quran gives this group special recognition.

009:122
"And the believers should not all go forth together. Of every group of them, only a party should go forth, that they (who are left behind) may obtain sound knowledge in religion (liyatafaqqahu fi-din), and that they may warn their people when they return to them, so that they may beware" [2]

In such a situation, there is always a case for expectation of some form of recompense that will assist one to maintain their livelihoods to at least a reasonable level where they can continue to learn / teach and contribute to the wider society. 

However, what is arguably more relevant is that any expectation of recompense should come in the same spirit as we note in verse 58:12 where private consultations with the prophet (that went beyond general preaching) were twinned with a genuine/kind gesture of some sort of charity, if possible. This was considered the better approach.

058:012
"O you who believe! when you privately consult the Messenger, then offer something in charity before your consultation; that is better for you and purer; but if you do not find (the means), then surely God is Forgiving, Merciful."

What is highly questionable however is what the article refers to implicity in the 'Final Thoughts' section as those self-appointed spiritual guides that have been overcome with greed and questionable practices with no other purpose but to extract financial gain. This is a disease that has existed even in ancient communities / followers of previous creeds, where religion was used by individuals and the collective clergy as a tool, for little or no other purpose but to elicit financial rewards.

005.062-63
"And you will see many of them hastening in sin and exceeding the limits, and their devouring / consuming of what is unlawfully acquired (illicit gains); certainly evil is that which they do. Why do not the rabbis and the religious scholars prohibit them from their speaking of what is sinful and their devouring / consuming of what is unlawfully acquired? Certainly evil is that which they work."

009.009
"They exchange the verses of God for a little gain / price and they hinder (men) from His way. Indeed! evil is what they used to do"

002.079
“Therefore woe be unto those who write the Scripture with their own hands and then say, "This is from God," that they may purchase a small gain with it.”

I hope this helps, God willing
Joseph


REFERENCES:

[1] FOLLOW THOSE THAT ASK OF NO FEE
http://quransmessage.com/articles/ask%20of%20no%20fee%20FM3.htm
[2] 'Familiarity' and 'Erudition' Remain Distinct
https://www.facebook.com/joseph.a.islam/posts/489434137860385

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Wa alaikum assalam

Please kindly allow me to share my humble response succinctly. I would not recommend giving up on any additional / supererogatory prayers for your Lord, particularly if you are already in the routine and find much connection with your Creator during your worship.

Praying to our Lord in as much as possible can arguably only be seen as a positive thing, even though as you have gathered, certain prayers are not compulsory. Perchance, it may actually be more beneficial for one when they seek their Lord’s countenance when they remain fully cognizant that it is supererogatory worship and is being exclusively performed all for His name sake. (And remember the name of your Lord and devote yourself to Him with (exclusive / complete) devotion – 73:8 )

I would also take cue from verse 73:20, where the prophet and his companions were told to regulate their worship in so far as for it not to impinge on their daily lives negatively. However, the remit of expected devotion / any religious duty remains in as much as one is able ('So keep your duty to God as best you can / what you are able' (Arabic: ma is’tata’tum) 64:16)

Finally as you’ve probably already noted, I believe in the 5 prayer system [1] which I’ve supported / argued numerous times from the Quran and on various platforms. My humble view with regards 'Tarawih prayers' is also shared below [2].


025:077
"Say, "My Lord would not care for you if it was not for YOUR PRAYER (* Du’a) (to Him)..."
* Du'a - a prayer, a supplication.

074:042
"What has led you to this burning / hell?"

074:043
"They will say 'We were not of those who prayed! (min'al-musalin)"


I hope this helps, God willing
Joseph


REFERENCES:

[1] PRAYERS
http://quransmessage.com/articles/prayer%20FM3.htm
[2] TARAWIH PRAYERS
http://quransmessage.com/forum/index.php?topic=1315.0

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General Discussions / Re: Geocentrism and Flat Earth in Quran II
« on: May 19, 2018, 07:02:31 PM »
THE SHAPE OF THE EARTH
http://quransmessage.com/articles/the%20shape%20of%20the%20earth%20FM3.htm


The gist of the article is summarised below:

[1] The Earth was levelled and spread wide to make it habitable. This does not mean that the whole planet is flat.

[2] The Quran confirms Earth-like objects in the observable cosmos in verse 65:12. To date, all these earth-like celestial objects have been shown to be a sphere-like shape and not flat.

065:012
"It is God who has created seven/several heavens and of the Earth, the like of them."


[3] The focus of the Quran's narrative is not to provide evidence for the shape of the earth per se, but rather to ponder over the vast realms of God's creation, with a view to acknowledge Him as the Creator and Supreme authority.

[4] The Quran provides multifaceted examples through verifiable observations / perceptions of the planet and the wider cosmos. This does not imply that its intention is to primarily present challenging concepts that would be blatantly unacceptable to the understanding / sensibilities / perceptions of the people or to present novel scientific observations which were impossible to observe (53:49) or verify. However, these signs do incorporate 'Divine fingerprints' which could be better understood with the advancement of scientific discovery. After all, the Quran is a Scripture that needs to remain current, appropriate and consistent with time.

I hope this helps, God willing.
Joseph

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