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Prophets and Messengers / Re: Dhul Qarnain
« Last post by Imran Faruqui on Today at 04:53:10 AM »
Peace Ajaz,

Not sure if you caught it or not in the threads brother Joseph referenced above, but the latest version of Qur'anic Odyssey, which includes the second chapter, can be found here:

http://quransmessage.com/files/Quranic%20Odyssey%20Ch1-2%20v2.37.pdf

Imran
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salaam miracle114,

There are my thoughts ...

First, my understanding of "what is dedicated to other than God" (2:173, 5:3)  is an offering made or dedicated to an idol (not necessarily physical). For example, some religious traditions practice making "offerings" to idols or deities besides God. If food has not been dedicated to such an idol, it does not come under this category. Further, this applies to all food (whether veg or non-veg), and the religious beliefs or identity of the person serving the food does not matter.

Second, any meat from animals [besides pig] that has been slaughtered by means other than those listed in 5:3 is lawful to eat. And we should mention God's name upon all food that we eat, whether veg or non-veg (6:118-121). And also mention God's name when we hunt or slaughter animals ourselves (5:4, 22:36). And give thanks to God for the food that He has provided (2:172, 16:114). The onus is on the eater to mention God's name upon food that he/she eats. I do not see this as necessitating a religious test on the slaughterer or audit whether he would have also mentioned God's name (or on the  fisherman or the farmer for that matter). For example, God says that the food of the people of the scripture is lawful (5:5). There is no requirement to check whether they mentioned the name of God at the time of slaughtering an animal.

Third, the term muslim in the Quran is a descriptive word for anyone who has faith in God and leads a righteous life, without associating partners with Him (2:62, 2:112, 5:69, 3:67). The religious or faith tradition that the person came from does not matter. The classical definition of a Muslim is anyone who testified that "there is no god except God and Muhammad is a messenger of God". The first part of this testimony is indeed the Quranic testimony (3:18), while the second part is described as testimony of hypocrites (63:1) and is not a requirement for salvation. The 'kalima' mentioned in the Quran is consistently la ilaha illallah in various forms, without any creation's name attached to it (37:35, 47:19, 21:25, 2:255, 59:22-23, 21:87 and numerous others). 39:45 describes the disease of the heart of being unsatisfied when God alone is mentioned, and being happy only when others besides God are also mentioned.

My point is that a person who is "Muslim" by the classical definition does not necessarily be one who submits to God by the Quranic definition. Similarly, a person who is "non-Muslim" by the classical definition could well be one who submits to God by the Quranic definition. Ornate, ornamental calligraphy of Muhammad's name, or the graves of Muhammad or saints, or the black stone that people fight to kiss, are not any less of idols than those we normally identify in other religious traditions. There may be people who appear outwardly idolatrous, while having faith in their hearts. God knows the secrets in everybody's hearts, and what they reveal and what they conceal. We should be cautious against being prejudiced against communities that do not carry the label of "Muslim". I do not see a restriction in the Quran to eat only  "halal" meat as advertised  by people identifying as "Muslims" according to the classical definition.

Peace.
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One of the interpretations on Lane's Lexicon of the word 'Janabah' is:

He was, or became, in the state of one who is termed جُنُب; (S, IAth, Mgh, L, Msb, K;) i. e., under the obligation of performing a total ablution, by reason of sexual intercourse and discharge of the semen. (IAth, TA.)" [Edward Lanes].

However, I believe this came from hadith and inserted itself into the lexicons. This happens with Ghusl as well as Lane's lexicon made a statement that Ghusl means washing every part 3 times (which is sourced from a hadith).

With that said, I reject this non-quranic view of the word 'Janabah'. The quran explicitly clarifies what it means by Janabah...Twice.

[Qural 4:43] O you who have believed, do not approach prayer while you are intoxicated until you know what you are saying or in a state of janabah, except those passing through [a place of prayer], until you have washed. And if you are ill or on a journey or one of you comes from the place of relieving himself or you have contacted women and find no water, then seek clean earth and wipe over your faces and your hands [with it]. Indeed, Allah is ever Pardoning and Forgiving.


On the underlined quote above, it is clear the Quran says [paraphrasing] "if you happened to be dirty and not find water, do this alternative thing". So the Quran explained what it means to be dirty (Janabah). You are in a state of Janabah: when you are ill (sickness and infectious processes), Traveling (imagine a 7th century Arab traveling for days--very dirty), come from a bathroom (imagine 7th-century toilets and their dirtiness), or had contacted women. These are what constitute a state of Janabah. And if you don't have water when you are in that state, then use some clean earth and wipe face and hands.

[Quran 5:6] O you who have believed, when you rise to [perform] prayer, wash your faces and your forearms to the elbows and wipe over your heads and wash your feet to the ankles. And if you are in a state of janabah, then purify yourselves. But if you are ill or on a journey or one of you comes from the place of relieving himself or you have contacted women and do not find water, then seek clean earth and wipe over your faces and hands with it. Allah does not intend to make difficulty for you, but He intends to purify you and complete His favor upon you that you may be grateful.

Again it clarified what that word Janabah means. It elabored on what to do if you don't find water and can't wash yourself when in Janabah.

In conclusion: I believe the Lexicon's inclusion of Ghusl to mean washing every body part 3 times, and Janabah to mean after having sexual intercourse/seminal discharge is based on hadith influence. It also means being in a journey, and ____, ____, etc. The Quran clarified this above right after discussing what to do when in Janabah.

I prefer JosephIslam's input on this. Anyone else, please comment on this and what you feel.

I believe this is very simple. "If you are dirty: wash yourself before prayer. And if you cannot find water do x,y,z".

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Prophets and Messengers / Re: Dhul Qarnain
« Last post by Aijaz on June 18, 2018, 11:28:28 PM »
Thanks, very nice articles.
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Salaam
Nowadays halal meat is sold everywhere not just in Muslim shops, infact Hindu and Chinese restaurants now serve meat labeled "halal".
The meat could have been slaughtered by a muslim, but is it still considered halal if idol worshippers are selling it from behind idol stacked counters.  The animal that was dedicated to God at the time of slaughter now suddenly being sold by someone who perhaps doesn't believe in a God at all seems a tad sneaky

Please share your thoughts

Peace and jzk
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General Discussions / Re: Who/What is Michael?
« Last post by Aijaz on June 17, 2018, 08:35:14 PM »
Please consider the following points in the below mentioned Ayas:

16:102: The Rooh ul Qudus has sent down the Message.
 26:193:  The Rooh ul Ameen came down with the Message

2:97 Jibreal sent the Message down on your heart
 2:98 Jibreal and Mikal are mentioned as a pair

From the above mentioned points the following deduction can be made:

A Rooh sent the Message down (Rooh ul Qudus), and a Rooh came down with it (Ruh ul Ameen); Jibreal sent down the message, therefore Jibreal is Ruh ul Qudus. if Jibrael and Mikal are paired then Mikal should be the Rooh which came down with the message i.e Rooh ul Ameen.

16:102  قُلْ نَزَّلَهُ رُوحُ الْقُدُسِ مِن رَّبِّكَ بِالْحَقِّ لِيُثَبِّتَ الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا وَهُدًى وَبُشْرَىٰ لِلْمُسْلِمِينَ

Say the Ruh-ul- Qudus/Revered Spirit has revealed it from your Lord with the truth so that to strengthen those who believe and a guidance any good news for muslims/submitters.

2:97  قُلْ مَن كَانَ عَدُوًّا لِّجِبْرِيلَ فَإِنَّهُ نَزَّلَهُ عَلَىٰ قَلْبِكَ بِإِذْنِ اللَّهِ مُصَدِّقًا لِّمَا بَيْنَ يَدَيْهِ وَهُدًى وَبُشْرَىٰ لِلْمُؤْمِنِينَ

Say, whoever is an enemy to Jibrael/Gabriel-for he brings down the (revelation) to your heart by Allah’s will, a confirmation of whats between the hands, and guidance and glad tidings for those who believe,-

From the above two Ayas we know that Ruh ul Qudus is Jibrael.

26:193  نَزَلَ بِهِ الرُّوحُ الْأَمِينُ

Sent down the Ruh-ul-Ameen/Honest Spirit with it.

The Rooh ul Ameen/ The Honest Sprit has been sent down with it (Al-Quran)

2:98  مَن كَانَ عَدُوًّا لِّلَّهِ وَمَلَائِكَتِهِ وَرُسُلِهِ وَجِبْرِيلَ وَمِيكَالَ فَإِنَّ اللَّهَ عَدُوٌّ لِّلْكَافِرِينَ

Whoever is an enemy to Allah and His angels and His messengers, and Jibrael/Gabriel and Mikal/Michael ,- then! Allah is an enemy to the  rejecters.

Jibrael and Mikal are mentioned as pairs in the above Ayat. Considering this pairing of Jibrael and Mikal and that Jibrael is the Rooh ul Qudus, who sent down the message, then the Rooh-ul Ameen who came down with the message, should be Mikal.

https://topicsfromquran.wordpress.com/2018/06/16/mikal-%d9%85%d9%8a%d9%83%d8%a7%d9%84/
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Discussions / Re: Eid Mubarak
« Last post by Hamzeh on June 16, 2018, 10:24:12 PM »
Asalamu 3alykum

Ameen Insha'Allah

Eid Mubarak to you all

Salam  :)
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Prophets and Messengers / Re: Abraham lied three times
« Last post by Aijaz on June 15, 2018, 07:56:52 PM »
https://wordpress.com/post/topicsfromquran.wordpress.com/2552


The link to above post discusses this topic.


Illah/gods are the ones with whom there is no two-way communication. When you call them they can't respond to you (46:5, 7:194, 13:14). While, Allah do communicate with people through His Book. You get to know about Allah, His orders, His likes and dislikes through His Book. When you don't know Allah through His Book, Allah is like an Ilah to you i.e there is no two way communication with Him. Those people who don't have communication with Allah, the biggest Illah in their minds is Allah.  While they do say that Allah is their Lord but they don't know what Allah is asking them to do. They don't have knowledge of His Book and His message to them. They keep putting their list of desires before Him, however they don't know what He is asking them to become or act like in order for their supplications to be accepted,  so Allah becomes the Biggest Illah for them.

Because, the majority of people who don't have knowledge of the Book and therefore don't know Allah's message, they fall prey to the syndrome of smaller ilah's/gods. These smaller ilahs are of various types; an introduction to them is given in previously published post https://topicsfromquran.wordpress.com/2017/08/07/ilahs-false-gods-mentioned-in-al-kitab/ . They can be in the form of emotions, physical idols, non physical idols, Jesus, Mary, Lofty personalities, stories of the past, etc. The first statement of All Messengers in the Book, is not to associate smaller illahs with Allah. The practice of Ibrahim A.S is to break the smaller illah's so that people can turn towards the real Allah. That is termed as the best practice in the eyes of the Lord (60:4). The smaller Illah's/gods/idols cannot be broken in people nafs without the leave of Allah as they are so deeply ingrained in people.

Therefore, when Ibrahim A.S, said that the Biggest one has broken the smaller idols, it is not a lie, its actually a true statement. Allah confirms in Quran that Ibrahim is truthful prophet (19:41) although story and history books may tell you that Ibrahim has told 3 lies in his life time. This can not be true in light of Quranic Ayat. These stories cannot relate the fact that when Ibrahim broke the Idols of his nation and told them that the Biggest Illah has done it, he actually means that the smaller Illah's can only be shattered by the leave of Allah, as they are so deeply ingrained in one's psyche.
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Discussions / Re: Eid Mubarak
« Last post by Ahmad on June 15, 2018, 11:12:57 AM »
Wa alaykum al salam,

Eid Mubarak to you too and everyone on the forum insha'allah.  :)
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Discussions / Re: Eid Mubarak
« Last post by Joseph Islam on June 15, 2018, 10:04:21 AM »
Wa alaikum assalam Yahia,

Eid mubarak to you and everyone on this forum too. May God accept all our fasts, God willing.

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