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even if they came with a script to match who would decide it is better or lesser than quran? the argument is logically flawed.

33:59 O Prophet, tell your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers to bring down over themselves [part] of their outer garments. That is more suitable that they will be known and not be abused. And ever is Allah Forgiving and Merciful.

so it aims to protect prophet's wives, daughters and women believers (free not jariya or slaves). it openly says this is to protect them from abuse by letting the perpetrators to recognize them. The quran doesnt focus on perpetruators or the vicious crime they are doing by targeting jariyas and other women. It doesnt say protect all women against those perpetruators but instead follow a sign so your women and believer free women will not be targeted. This directive serves to protect only these women, rather than addressing the perpetrators or their acts of targeting non-believing  free women or jariyas muslim or none muslim. Why does the instruction focus on adopting a sign to prevent targeting specific groups of women, rather than safeguarding all women against such perpetrators?

Discussions / Re: Did Muhammad PBUH doubt Quran? Surah 10:94
« on: June 18, 2020, 06:12:42 PM »
So it accepts it is doubtable and prophet had had his ups and downs just like any other human kind. but given god is god he could make him %100 assured of what was happening to him and how there is no need to doubt. but such ayats hints it is possible even for prophet to doubt about things so i wonder how radical people playing god role in religion behaving other people for not thinking and accepting the religion as they do. such a pity.

Posts on Facebook / Re: The Pandemic
« on: June 18, 2020, 06:03:59 PM »
throughout history whenever something bad happens religious people rush to make speedy arguments how god is very angry with us how he wants to teach us a lesson how heedless we are come on is this all stereotypical behaviour and i wonder is not it bothering you? listen why not to open a new perspective about his maybe god want to save us from maybe there is something better in this in the long time. Please dont always have negative opinions about god maybe it is his plan to recover us from a most destructive end. as long as god makes it very clear from contemporary communications here we have such as internet facebook instagram mobile phones people who talk instead of him sorry i cant take it granted as you are his speakers vice president etc.

General Discussions / Re: Sons>Daughters (?)
« on: June 18, 2020, 05:58:04 PM »
but it would be cool if god said or stated that how wonderful females are as well as males and making it a wider point that he is not insulted by their saying that girls to god and explain the basic sin was their seeing females lower than males as he/she/It created them from the creator point. It would be great then and now =)

General Discussions / Re: Why the pronoun He is for Allah?
« on: June 18, 2020, 05:54:50 PM »
during the first revelation if quran used she instead of he in arabic it would be total waste of time as arabs would completely reject it at once and it would have no chance of spreading as it is now.

forcing science boundaries in order to prove one's religion is dangerous because you took science over quran as validator and once science tells something opposite of quran you have two choices either accept it or live a hypocrisy reject science when it is not usefull.

General Discussions / Re: Top 10 problems due to Traditional Islam
« on: June 18, 2020, 05:47:13 PM »
not top ten but for my understanding the most important one is interpreting quran without historical and geographical context. not to take into consideration of time and place thats the most problematic view of quran which caused many sufferings!

General Discussions / Re: To Whom It May Concern
« on: March 20, 2019, 03:13:55 PM »

Women / Re: women paridise polygamy forced
« on: March 20, 2019, 03:13:07 PM »
easy mohammad easy. please instead of feeling pity and showing emotional outburst come with logic. Quranic description of heaven mainly targets the arabs likening (mainly male) of pleasures. This is also stated in many thinkers book as i remember one is Matorudi. chill out!

Women / Re: women paridise polygamy forced
« on: March 19, 2019, 08:01:53 PM »
Quran is mainly male centric and the people quran first addressed lived in a type of society where male dominates above females.They were having as many wife as they want and divorcing whenever they want. Divorcing old ones and marrying young teens. So these kind of heaven descriptions also followed their way of living and nobody complained then. There was no problem at all. But in this time and age when we women are empowering in many fields and society changes we have difficulties understanding these descriptions of heaven which is just like a typical arab of that time would love to have, would love to die for, would love to kill for. So if we put quran in a time and historical frame and only derive universal ideas and treat quran in this context our next generations may be away from deism!

Discussions / Re: Atheists are more righteous they say
« on: March 19, 2019, 07:54:25 PM »
It is all down to human individually.It goes like this: Some muslims are good some are bad, some atheists are good some are bad, some people are good some are bad. That's exactly what it is. No way one group of humanity perfect whereas the rest suck!

General Discussions / Re: To Whom It May Concern
« on: March 19, 2019, 07:51:54 PM »
Mohammad if you have children please dont do such as not bringing them to doctors or avoid vaccination. Although i suspect you have any child remembering how many times they become sick and need medical attention!

General Discussions / Re: "Muhammad was not from Mecca" by Sam Garrans
« on: March 19, 2019, 07:43:12 PM »
even these trivial things are not stated explicitly and clearly and paving road to disagreement between the followers of islam. but quran says it is crystal clear then i guess something is wrong...

its islamic sufism and mysticism which advocates for this position for them the words of the quran (arabic words) are a source of healing and blessing both for body and the soul. But i think their point is a serious cause for many problems which is very prevalent in islamic societies because it draws people away from logic and critical thinking.

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